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  Live 'as though' God is true and goodness is real? Why? Why not?

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  7 years ago

  in the long run, goodness can be as real as we care to live it.

  and if we live 'as though' god were as real as we once believed--how can we go wrong?let us think about this...what would happen if we were given a large amount of cash and we spent it on gifts for our loved ones but-- a knock at the door and the police are here!

  that cash was counterfeit and those gifts must be confiscated...what then?good intentions are only that--intentions-- if there is no "there" there.when we were each others' brothers and sisters our love was real but the currency was counterfeit.

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  I believe in overlapping 7 years ago

  We do have to take care of ourselves. Too young I rushed out willy nilly to 'save the world' for our Watchtower overlords and yet there was nobody there to save me.
  So much of 'spiritual help' is noise and ideology; aren't we wasting our reservoir of interior goodness on THAT instead of more practical concern for the physical welfare and well-being?

  The problem is that many people don’t have much of choice. Sometimes you are born into the wrong family. If you are born into the Watchtower religion, you are “encouraged” to get baptized at a young age and coax into knocking on doors and saving strangers from eternal death. How many of us knocked on a door and didn’t realize and will never know--- there was a serial killer on the other side?

  Worse, sometimes you are born into the wrong family and in the wrong country.

  http://time.com/5442851/pakistan-blasphemy-asia-bibi-protest/?utm_source=reddit.com

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  Live 'as though' God is true and goodness is real? Why? Why not?

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  7 years ago

  in the long run, goodness can be as real as we care to live it.

  and if we live 'as though' god were as real as we once believed--how can we go wrong?let us think about this...what would happen if we were given a large amount of cash and we spent it on gifts for our loved ones but-- a knock at the door and the police are here!

  that cash was counterfeit and those gifts must be confiscated...what then?good intentions are only that--intentions-- if there is no "there" there.when we were each others' brothers and sisters our love was real but the currency was counterfeit.

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  And if we live 'as though' God were as real as we once believed--how can we go wrong?
  Before you answer that--one more question: What's the alternative?

  The alternative would be to live as though 'YOU are real,' but with the realization that there is no safety net to catch us.
  

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  Asylum Caravan

  by dubstepped in

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  7 years ago

  alright, so what is the deal with the thousands coming to the states right at election time seeking asylum?

  i'm not up on this, usually try not to be, but how can this not be manipulative?

  it's either manipulative in the size of the group and pressure that creates, or in where it started or who started this, etc.

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  I believe in overlapping 7 years ago

  So Trump said in one of the news reports today on TV that if just ONE rock or bottle is thrown at the military or police like they did in the Mexico border, the military has orders to open fire. The world must know that no foreign nation can invade the United States of America illegally.

  quote from Trump; 'I hope not. I hope not. It's the military. I hope there won't be that. But I will tell you this: Anybody throwing stones, rocks, like they did to Mexico and the Mexican military, Mexican police – where they badly hurt police and soldiers of Mexico – we will consider that a firearm,' Trump warned.

  Here is a follow up article.

  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6343295/Sources-Trump-eyes-asylum-restrictions-caravans.html

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  Asylum Caravan

  by dubstepped in

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  7 years ago

  alright, so what is the deal with the thousands coming to the states right at election time seeking asylum?

  i'm not up on this, usually try not to be, but how can this not be manipulative?

  it's either manipulative in the size of the group and pressure that creates, or in where it started or who started this, etc.

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  I believe in overlapping 7 years ago

  Good Morning! Today we were taking a few minutes to try to encourage our neighbors. Many people are concerned with the caravans of immigrants. Some say it’s wrong for them to force their way into our country. Others say we should help them because there are lots of women and children that need help.

  What do you think? -------Wait for response.

  Did you know the bible tells us that these types of conditions would exist in our time and people would be in fear of the things coming upon the earth, not knowing a way out?

  But the bible also tells us that very soon Jehovah, the God of the Bible is going to intervene in man’s affairs and solve all the world’s problems.

  I never understood how my parents got sucked into the Watchtower religion until now.

  I look at my parents and they aren’t dumb. My dad raised me, provided a place for us to live, paid all the bills, worked his ass off faithfully for years, and sometimes working two jobs that didn’t pay much, and all the while taking care of his responsibilities as an elder. And my mom did her part also. Doing odds jobs to bring in extra money and taking care of the house and preparing our meals and pioneering.

  But I can see how pre-internet era, it was very difficult to stay informed. You would have some event like this caravan coming to the U.S. and no one seems to have answers.

  Then along comes two individuals who open up their bible and show people a very simple solution that requires no work on the part of humans. Such a simple solution! No more worries of whatever comes our way because very soon, God is going to take care of the problems personally.

  All a person has to do is support GOD’S KINGDOM!

  Yea, I can see a possibility of me falling for this shit if I didn’t have the internet.

  I’m seeing my parents in a whole different light.

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  Asylum Caravan

  by dubstepped in

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  7 years ago

  alright, so what is the deal with the thousands coming to the states right at election time seeking asylum?

  i'm not up on this, usually try not to be, but how can this not be manipulative?

  it's either manipulative in the size of the group and pressure that creates, or in where it started or who started this, etc.

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  There are regular civilians who have trained for this very moment. called minutemen. These are former military armed to the tee and are already heading to the various borders These individuals do not work for the government but the Trump administration is not discouraging them to help hold down the border.

  These individuals hate illegal immigrants and if anyone starts shooting men, women and whoever gets in the way, it will be these guys. All it will take is one immigrant man to throw a rock or bottle and all hell will break out.
  

  With these guys mixed along with the military, and border patrol agents, no one will know who shot the first shot when all hell breaks loose.
  

  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/migrant-caravan-us-armed-militia-groups-mexico-texas-border-trump-immigration-a8604371.html

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  1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

  by minimus in

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  7 years ago

  for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

  the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

  were you around during this “momentous “ time??

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  I wasn't even a twinkle thought in my mother's mind. It would still be billions and billions of probabilities that my mom would decided to go to a convention not in her circuit just for fun, and by the same token my dad would also go to a different convention, and by some freaking chance, they bumped into each other and started talking. For some crazy reason they decided to stay n touch and many years later they got together and on a certain night, at a certain time, out of nowhere, I came into existence. And by the time I came out of my mother's womb, 1975 was over two decades in past history. All I know is 1975 has something to do with my parents, but not really sure what all the fuss is about.
  

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  Of Kingdumb Clubs Fading and Reappearing

  by Hairtrigger in

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  7 years ago

  here’s a thought for debate.. the eight think tanks ( and i’m speaking seriously) are selling off kingdom halls by the score!

  inconveniencing hall.

  goers everywhere.

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  I believe in overlapping 7 years ago

  You are talking about a different group of jws born in. I was born in and just started my 20s. I figured out about 5 years ago that the WT was a bunch of crap, I'm not alone, most of those my age figured out the same thing. I'm still considered a witness yet I haven't contributed anything, not a penny for five years, and don't plan to.

  I seriously doubt that 30 years from now when I hit 50 the WT will even exist. Maybe a little religion like the bible students with about 40 or 50k members. It would be just too embarrassing to be going to a building called a kingdom hall, whether to build or attend, who has been known for predicting that the last days started in 1914, and still building kingdom halls with that idea still alive in the year 2050.

  I know there will always be gullible people, but there will never ever be another 8-10 million gullible people believing their "Watchtower is God's Organization" - bullshit.
  

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  I Saw An Elder Yesterday Who Told Me 3 Area Kingdom Halls Were Being Dissolved

  by minimus in

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  7 years ago

  he said they read the letter to the congregation and were told the kh would be disbanded.

  2 other halls in the area were slated for closure.

  he said many people in the congregation began crying.

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  He said he was viewing this as an exciting time and looked forward to a new situation

  It will be real exciting once there are no more Kingdom Hall meetings to attend.
  

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  How Effective Are Anti-JW Internet Sites?

  by minimus in

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  7 years ago

  i think that once you get on the internet and you see evidence that shows jehovah’s witnesses do not have the real truth, it can jolt you.

  but i don’t think simply going on an internet site typically changes a person’s direction—even if the information is very damning toward the witnesses.

  i think it takes time to eventually get out.

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  I spend most of my time in exjw reddit. About a week ago we got 1000 new subscribers in 36 hours. We are almost reaching 30k subscribers. A lot of the new subscribers relate that they been visiting the site from weeks to about a year and that the site is what helped them wake up. So yes, they do help, but the time varies with each individual. Also circumstances affect the waking up process. JW family still in vs single with non-jw family. In for many years vs in for just a few years. Old timers vs the young generation. There are a lot of variables that affect the waking up process and also a lot of different mind-set personalities.
  

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  New releases at annual meeting??

  by _Morpheus in

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  7 years ago

  this has been mentioned in passing but it seems to deserve its own thread.. this year at the rc, no releases.

  instead they wait to drop them at the annual meeting which isnt a even simulcast event.

  what is their thinking?

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  Anyway it's no big deal when the new junk is released!!!!

  Db, your missing the point. It IS a big deal, but only because its when they choose to release it.

  I cant buy the editing excuse. They have 50+ years of practice with this. They know how to edit and prepare books for rc release dates.

  And again the money thing dosent wash either. They already were not releasing hard copies at conventions. This is a weird weird move.

  Morpheus, you would make one hell of a prosecutor, I would hate to have you trying me for some crime. You just keep digging until all the shit comes out.
  

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